[ See, half of his reluctance about texting Johnny had been about this - the knowledge that the other would inevitably ask what's wrong, and Daniel really isn't sure about how far to get into it.
But he'll try. It's not like he can leave another worried dad just hanging, especially when Johnny is being good and actually asking in the first place. ]
He's having a rough patch with Tory. He didn't want to stay in the same house as her anymore, so I'm letting him stay here.
[Aw. Well that sucks. There is a part of Johnny that does want to ask a bit more about it. But he actually felt comfortable enough talking with Tory that it would be worth asking her himself. But- He did know a thing or two about girl trouble to talk to Robby about this too.
It was an awful idea.]
Shit. Really? Well. I know a thing or two about having problems with a chick. Think it would be a good idea for me to give him a shout? Ask if he wants to do something to get his mind off it or some shit?
Because Daniel does think that Johnny is technically doing the right thing here. Offering to help Robby, to spend time with him. Even asking Daniel whether he thinks it's a good idea in the first place, rather than just going for it. If it wasn't for this exact situation, he easily would've told Johnny to go for it.
But he also knows that it's a little bit more awkward now because of the exact situation.
After sitting there and thinking about it for a few moments, Daniel decides to just put the cards face-up on the table here, metaphorically speaking. Johnny is trying, so it's better if he has all the information too, right? ]
Usually I would say yes, but.. do you know he's worried about you? He's not even mad, just
[ ... Hold on, thinking back on Robby's pathetic little meow meow state when he told Daniel.. ]
really worried.
He told me that you told him you died four times.
[ Which Daniel also didn't know. Until that moment. ]
[It takes Johnny a little to process what he's reading and not act out in sudden emotion. It's hard but he manages it.
And after chewing on it for a little he manages to come to terms that it makes sense. He's not used to it but he gets how that revelation could fuck with someone..]
Yeah.
That tracks.
I wasn't trying to worry him or anything.
I was just trying to level with him about how I felt.
I've been here the longest out of everyone except for Tory. And fucking Silver but he's gone and come back so he doesn't count.
I've seen some wild shit here.
I was just trying to tell him how much he actually mattered to me compared to whatever this place throws out.
And- It probably wasn't the right away to do it. I don't think there is a right way to have that conversation.
[ Except leave out that probably. Daniel gets that he isn't supposed to snark here, since it isn't productive, but.. can you truly blame him for wanting to do so a little when he's such a petty man deep inside.
The only reason he actually sends is along is because he figures the tone is lost over text anyway. And then he does continue with something better and more productive. ]
I know you were trying to tell him something good. I actually think telling him you care about him like that is a great thing. [ S-See, Johnny. He is capable of saying nice stuff to you!
Sometimes! Daniel is doing his best too. ]
Just maybe not in combination with the sudden information drop about the deaths. Now he's just worried that you'll die again, or that you don't care about dying. He doesn't want to lose you. And I don't know how to reassure him about that, because we both know this place is a mess without guarantees when it comes to that stuff. I imagine you weren't actually planning on dying any of those times.
I'm just trying to figure out how to do what's best for our son.
[ Casually slipped in. ]
And I know you are too. [ Even if it doesn't.. always work out that way.. ]
Look. We've all been kind of shaky ground you both got here. It's the first time I've had a chance to actually sit down to talk to him.
I wasn't trying to freak him out but I didn't really have a lot of other comparisons to draw from. I was trying to show that I cared and that I know just about as good as anyone else how freaky this place can be.
And I try not to freak out when something new and fucked up happens- So I get how people can think that I don't give a shit about it.
Not that any of that really helps what I said- I'm just saying.
And no. I wasn't trying to die. Like one time I was an asshole. Fucked around and found out. But the other times I was legit trying my best to do right by someone else.
But yeah- I have gone like a pretty long time without doing it again and I don't plan on letting it happen again if I can help it.
...And yeah. I am. I wasn't trying to keep it from either of you and didn't want it to freak anyone out. Just been in a rock and a hard place kind of situation.
I know, Johnny. Believe it or not [ Because Daniel is at least self-aware enough that it might not sound entirely believable coming from him, of all people.. ] but I'm actually assuming all good intentions on your end here.
[ It doesn't count if he's also assuming dumb intentions, right. Those are not mutually exclusive.
Johnny can be a better guy than Daniel thought when they first got into their adult spat, but he can also be every inch as dumb as Daniel thought. ]
And I don't know about all of your deaths, but.. The only one I know about is the one involving Maul, which I assume is the one you're describing there, and I completely blame him for that one. What kind of psychopath kills someone else over a single insult? You insult me all the time and nearly killed me when we were younger, and I've never even considered murdering you. You can't seriously tell me you think murder is a valid answer to that.
I made sure to tell that guy exactly that that's what I thought too. Pretty sure he's still pissed off at me for it.
[ You stand up for your blonde himbo rival one time.. :/ ]
[ .. yeah, okay, maybe Daniel is starting to see what Robby meant when he said it seemed like Johnny didn't care about dying.
Which seems like a bigger problem, but it's not like Daniel thinks he's the right person to talk with Johnny about that. Surely the other has some other adult friends that could address it, right..
Though he can't quite resist a dry: ]
Wow. It's like you treat this guy better than you treat me.
I mean, he's apparently been training Robby for a few months now.
[ Not that Daniel thinks Johnny knows that. After all, Daniel himself didn't find out until Robby confessed as much to him literally just the other day.
But it does feel like something Johnny should know now, in the light of the whole 'not like I'm trusting him with my son' deal. ]
But he's feeling really bad about having trained with Maul in the first place. I'm mostly just saying all this stuff so you know what it's all about if he seems awkward or down the next time you see him, you know? So you've got context.
[ See, this is important information to impart, Daniel thinks. It's all for Robby's sake.
.. but it also allows him to stall here for a few moments, because-- what does he even say to that last part? One might imagine Daniel was expecting something like this to return to him after what he said before, but please, Daniel "doesn't leave well enough alone" LaRusso is always just running his bratty mouth without thinking about what will follow it.
Case in point. ]
Don't worry, I'm not looking for any special treatment. [ Or, well, not any positive special treatment, he means. He's already had enough of his fill of negative special treatment from Johnny in the first place, thanks.. He's done rolling down hills... ] Just thought it was kind of ironic that it seemed you were more willing to give a murderer a chance than to give me one.
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Date: 2023-02-06 04:32 pm (UTC)But he'll try. It's not like he can leave another worried dad just hanging, especially when Johnny is being good and actually asking in the first place. ]
He's having a rough patch with Tory. He didn't want to stay in the same house as her anymore, so I'm letting him stay here.
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Date: 2023-02-08 02:39 am (UTC)It was an awful idea.]
Shit. Really? Well. I know a thing or two about having problems with a chick.
Think it would be a good idea for me to give him a shout?
Ask if he wants to do something to get his mind off it or some shit?
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Date: 2023-02-09 07:17 pm (UTC)Man, talk about a conundrum.
Because Daniel does think that Johnny is technically doing the right thing here. Offering to help Robby, to spend time with him. Even asking Daniel whether he thinks it's a good idea in the first place, rather than just going for it. If it wasn't for this exact situation, he easily would've told Johnny to go for it.
But he also knows that it's a little bit more awkward now because of the exact situation.
After sitting there and thinking about it for a few moments, Daniel decides to just put the cards face-up on the table here, metaphorically speaking. Johnny is trying, so it's better if he has all the information too, right? ]
Usually I would say yes, but.. do you know he's worried about you? He's not even mad, just
[ ... Hold on, thinking back on Robby's pathetic little meow meow state when he told Daniel.. ]
really worried.
He told me that you told him you died four times.
[ Which Daniel also didn't know. Until that moment. ]
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Date: 2023-02-10 01:05 am (UTC)And after chewing on it for a little he manages to come to terms that it makes sense. He's not used to it but he gets how that revelation could fuck with someone..]
Yeah.
That tracks.
I wasn't trying to worry him or anything.
I was just trying to level with him about how I felt.
I've been here the longest out of everyone except for Tory. And fucking Silver but he's gone and come back so he doesn't count.
I've seen some wild shit here.
I was just trying to tell him how much he actually mattered to me compared to whatever this place throws out.
And- It probably wasn't the right away to do it. I don't think there is a right way to have that conversation.
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Date: 2023-02-10 08:14 pm (UTC)[ Except leave out that probably. Daniel gets that he isn't supposed to snark here, since it isn't productive, but.. can you truly blame him for wanting to do so a little when he's such a petty man deep inside.
The only reason he actually sends is along is because he figures the tone is lost over text anyway. And then he does continue with something better and more productive. ]
I know you were trying to tell him something good. I actually think telling him you care about him like that is a great thing. [ S-See, Johnny. He is capable of saying nice stuff to you!
Sometimes! Daniel is doing his best too. ]
Just maybe not in combination with the sudden information drop about the deaths. Now he's just worried that you'll die again, or that you don't care about dying. He doesn't want to lose you. And I don't know how to reassure him about that, because we both know this place is a mess without guarantees when it comes to that stuff. I imagine you weren't actually planning on dying any of those times.
I'm just trying to figure out how to do what's best for our son.
[ Casually slipped in. ]
And I know you are too. [ Even if it doesn't.. always work out that way.. ]
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Date: 2023-02-11 04:01 am (UTC)Look. We've all been kind of shaky ground you both got here. It's the first time I've had a chance to actually sit down to talk to him.
I wasn't trying to freak him out but I didn't really have a lot of other comparisons to draw from. I was trying to show that I cared and that I know just about as good as anyone else how freaky this place can be.
And I try not to freak out when something new and fucked up happens- So I get how people can think that I don't give a shit about it.
Not that any of that really helps what I said- I'm just saying.
And no. I wasn't trying to die. Like one time I was an asshole. Fucked around and found out. But the other times I was legit trying my best to do right by someone else.
But yeah- I have gone like a pretty long time without doing it again and I don't plan on letting it happen again if I can help it.
...And yeah. I am. I wasn't trying to keep it from either of you and didn't want it to freak anyone out. Just been in a rock and a hard place kind of situation.
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Date: 2023-02-14 10:13 pm (UTC)[ It doesn't count if he's also assuming dumb intentions, right. Those are not mutually exclusive.
Johnny can be a better guy than Daniel thought when they first got into their adult spat, but he can also be every inch as dumb as Daniel thought. ]
And I don't know about all of your deaths, but.. The only one I know about is the one involving Maul, which I assume is the one you're describing there, and I completely blame him for that one. What kind of psychopath kills someone else over a single insult? You insult me all the time and nearly killed me when we were younger, and I've never even considered murdering you. You can't seriously tell me you think murder is a valid answer to that.
I made sure to tell that guy exactly that that's what I thought too. Pretty sure he's still pissed off at me for it.
[ You stand up for your blonde himbo rival one time.. :/ ]
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Date: 2023-02-16 03:46 am (UTC)[It's a genuine question. Just from everything they've been through he finds it hard to believe sometimes.
But he realizes how bad that might come off and adds in.]
I mean. Thanks.
[There is a pause as he reads over the rest of this. He can only do so much.]
I'm not saying it was valid or anything. Just that I was being an ass and I was asking for something. Probably not that.
And yeah. He's kind of a freak. But- I dunno. We've talked a few times. There are worse assholes hanging around here.
Just don't make fun of his nail polish. He takes it pretty seriously.
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Date: 2023-02-17 08:57 pm (UTC)Which seems like a bigger problem, but it's not like Daniel thinks he's the right person to talk with Johnny about that. Surely the other has some other adult friends that could address it, right..
Though he can't quite resist a dry: ]
Wow. It's like you treat this guy better than you treat me.
And I never even killed you.
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Date: 2023-02-19 03:05 am (UTC)That's a fuckin' joke.
Look- I'm not saying he's a fucking saint or that I like him. Just that I think I get him.
[There's a pause before he adds in.]
It's not like I'm trusting him with my son or anything. I don't know exactly what you me to say here.
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Date: 2023-02-19 08:46 pm (UTC)Hm. ]
I mean, he's apparently been training Robby for a few months now.
[ Not that Daniel thinks Johnny knows that. After all, Daniel himself didn't find out until Robby confessed as much to him literally just the other day.
But it does feel like something Johnny should know now, in the light of the whole 'not like I'm trusting him with my son' deal. ]
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Date: 2023-02-20 02:15 am (UTC)But he knew he had to set the record straight on he actually stood on LaRusso compared to Maul of all people.]
Shit.
...I'm guessing Robby isn't doing that anymore now that he knows?
[This is just a guess. But he hasn't exactly been in a position to try and put out that before now.]
And look, I'm working on the whole you and me thing.
But you are in a different league than that guy and I'm kind of shit at showing it.
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Date: 2023-02-21 07:30 am (UTC)But he's feeling really bad about having trained with Maul in the first place. I'm mostly just saying all this stuff so you know what it's all about if he seems awkward or down the next time you see him, you know? So you've got context.
[ See, this is important information to impart, Daniel thinks. It's all for Robby's sake.
.. but it also allows him to stall here for a few moments, because-- what does he even say to that last part? One might imagine Daniel was expecting something like this to return to him after what he said before, but please, Daniel "doesn't leave well enough alone" LaRusso is always just running his bratty mouth without thinking about what will follow it.
Case in point. ]
Don't worry, I'm not looking for any special treatment. [ Or, well, not any positive special treatment, he means. He's already had enough of his fill of negative special treatment from Johnny in the first place, thanks.. He's done rolling down hills... ] Just thought it was kind of ironic that it seemed you were more willing to give a murderer a chance than to give me one.